KIEBER DNA

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The DNA for the Kieber paternal line belongs to Haplogroup R-Z8056 (  aka R1b1a1a2a1a1a) which originated in Europe, but is now spread out into West Asia and is predominant in Ireland and Wales. According to 23andme, a recent study of 3 direct male descendents of the Bourbon Kings, show a dna connection. This means King Henry IV (1589) and King Louis XVI (the last Bourbon King of France, who was beheaded in 1793) are our relatives! Unfortunately, for the 200 years or so that the Kiebers in our close lineage lived in Alsace, we were peasant farmers and weavers.

Here is a breakdown from fabpedigree website  of our KIEBER  lineage or our Y-DNA that began 2000 years ago:

/— R y-Haplogroup (M207)   +====> [ 44]
             /— R-Y482 y-Haplogroup
            /— R1 y-Haplogroup (P238)
           /— R1b y-Haplogroup (M343)
          /— R1b-L278 y-Haplogroup (M415)
         /— R1b-L754 y-Haplogroup  (15,100 BC)
        /— R1b-L389 y-Haplogroup  (13,600 BC)
       /— R1b-P297 y-Haplogroup  (11,300 BC)
      /— R1b-M269 y-Haplogroup
     /— R1b-L23 y-Haplogroup  (4100 BC)
    /— R1b-L51 y-Haplogroup (M412)  (Yamnaya? 3900 BC)
   /— R1b-L151 y-Haplogroup (P310/L11)
  /— R1b-U106 y-Haplogroup (‘Germanic’)
 /— R1b-Z2265 y-Haplogroup
/— R1b-BY30097 y-Haplogroup
/
– R1b-Z8056 y-Haplogroup (FGC3861

The DNA for the Kieber paternal line belongs to Haplogroup R-Z8056 (  aka R1b1a1a2a1a1a) which originated in Europe, but is now spread out into West Asia and is predominant in Ireland and Wales.You can see that R-Z8056 is descended from  R-Y482, which was born in Central Asia 26,200 B.C.

Moving down a bunch of steps,  R-U106 is a “patrilineal descended family that descends from an ancestral R-L151 group located among or near the Yamnaya culture, north of the Black Sea.  The group rose to significance in the area of present Germany and the surrounding areas probably a bit before 3000 BC.  Although U106 is found all over Europe, and in countries that Europeans have migrated to, it is most significant in Germany and surrounding countries, Scandinavia, and Britain.

its time-frame of 3000 BC, U106 likely arose in the Corded Ware culture. Depending on which branch of U106 a member descends from, the people on that branch adapted to a variety of different cultures along the way, including various derivatives of Slavic, Latin, Celtic, Belgae, Saxon, Viking, and other cultural groups. U106 is a family, not a culture.”  this is a quotation from FTDNA’s RU 106 Haplogroup page. So, it may be appropriate to wear the twin-horned helmet of our Viking ancestors!

As I learn more about this line and where the mutations occurred, I will post them.

We’d love more male relatives who connect back on this line to be tested to take the research further and deeper. Please let us know if you’ve already had your DNA analyzed or if you are interested in doing so. If you’d like to learn more about our deep ancestry, please read this page. We really need cousins to get tested and to post their results to gedmatch.com so we can ferret out the lines a bit better. Special thanks to Greg Kieber for already testing!

Kieber was spelled Küber (with the umlaut over the u) in the early records. This is a German occupational name for a cooper or one who makes barrels for beer and pickles etc.It is derived from the word kuebel, which means barrel. However, the name was spelled Kyburt in the earliest records and we don’t know what that means in Switzerland. If you would like to financially back our research trip to Switzerland……. please contact me or name us in your legacy.

Chris at John, Anna, and Lavern’s grave, Ray, Elisabeth, and Ray on back.

There are still many unanswered questions and pieces of the puzzle to fit together to build the story of our Kieber ancestors. If you’re curious (and hey, perhaps you’d like to donate to the research fund), I’ve put together some suggestions for future projects.

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